The Not-Yet God with Ilia Delio and Robert Ellsberg

The roles are reversed in this special episode that kicks off our next season of Hunger for Wholeness. In this one-part, special episode our esteemed host Ilia Delio is interviewed by Robert Ellsberg, publisher of Ilia’s latest book The Not-Yet God. Thanks to Robert Ellsberg and Orbis Books, Maryknoll, New York, for permission to share this recording. You can purchase The Not-Yet God (or any of Ilia’s books) by visiting


Ilia Delio, OSF, PhD, is a Franciscan Sister of Washington, DC, and an American theologian specializing in the area of science and religion, with interests in evolution, physics, and neuroscience and the import of these for theology. Her ground-breaking work is the premise of our podcast the Hunger for Wholeness, produced in partnership with the Fetzer Institute. 

On Hunger for Wholeness, Ilia interviews special guests who are also giving a new voice to the dialogue between science, technology and religion. This season, they include the likes of theologian Bruce Epperly, author and speaker Fr. Dan Horan, futurist Kevin Kelly, and many more.


“Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind.”

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