Playfulness, Technology, Embodiment and Racism with Brie Stoner (Part 2)

In the second part of Ilia’s interview with musician Brie Stoner, they share about wrestling with egos in both music and academia. They discuss the importance of insight, instincts, playfulness and embodiment and Ilia asks Brie how we can move beyond racism.


“Power over always functions in a pyramid structure in which there are not enough places at the top. So it elicits fear, it cultivates fear, it propagates fear, it runs on fear. But the paradigm of communion runs on that rhizomatic view that we are all of us connected, and in a non-hierarchical way, our co-creating possibility through love and through the adventure of becoming.”

Brie Stoner is a musician and songwriter who pulls from her multilingual and multicultural background in her indie dream-rock music. As a musician, Stoner has worked with producers Jay Bennett (Wilco) and most recently David Vandervelde (Father John Misty, Secretly Canadian) who produced her new album. Stoner’s music has also been featured by Victoria Secret, Orange is The New Black, The Affair, as well as many other international TV and film campaigns. As a writer, her work has been featured in “The Call To Unite: Voices of hope and Awakening,” a book featuring inspirational voices such as Oprah, Tim Shriver, Elizabeth Gilbert and many more. Brie was a co-host to the “Another Name for Every Thing” podcast which garnered millions of downloads, before launching her own podcast “Unknowing” in 2021, exploring the path of creative possibility in conversation with artists, authors, and activists. Her new single “Loved Me Like a Weapon” is out now! Her new album ME VEO will be out in late 2023.

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