How Deep Down the Complexity Goes with Neil Theise (Part 1)

In the first part of their conversation Ilia Delio asks stem cell researcher and author, Neil Theise, about this journey from science to complexity theory. Ilia and Neil ask big questions about how deep the complexity goes—is there something at the bottom of it all? And what can complexity theories teach us about our modern systems of life and society?


 “The teeming hordes of living things on Earth, not only in space but in time, are actually all one massive, single organism just as certainly as each one of us (in our own minds) seems to be a distinct human being throughout our limited lifetime.”

Neil Theise, MD, is a professor of pathology at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine. Through his scientific research, he has been a pioneer of adult stem cell plasticity and the anatomy of the human interstitium. Dr. Theise’s studies in complexity theory have led to interdisciplinary collaborations in fields such as integrative medicine, consciousness studies, and science-religion dialogue. His recent book, Notes on Complexity: The Scientific Theory of Connection, Consciousness, and Being explores all of these topics and more. He comes from a spiritual background of devotional Jewish practices and is a Senior Student at the Village Zendo in NYC. 


“Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind.”

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